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MAC OSX Version - When, if ever.....
Mar 19 2004
00:14
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I saw Vocaloid (Leon and Lola) at the NAMM show in January and was amazed. I want this software like I never have wanted software before.

At the NAMM show, I was told that Mac OSX version would be out by end of the year (2004). Does anyone know if this is really going to happen? Does anyone know if someone else is working on making similar, Mac compatible, software?

Until I get my hands on this amazing technology, I will continue to lurk on this message board jealous of what you have.

Also, keep posting your tunes so I can enjoy your creative work.

Waiting until the day my wife can appreciate a decent singer on my tunes….

Best regards to all,

Tony

Mar 19 2004
09:19
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Why don’t companies generally release PC & Mac versions of software from the get-go? I’m curious to know the reason. Is it “can’t be bothered”, “Not enough Mac users to warrant it”, or “Technically very different platforms”? In the case of audio software, we know that there are a lot of professionals with Mac DAWs.

Mar 19 2004
10:18
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Ed Stratton (Zero-G boss) gets tons of queries about vocaloid for the Mac, this is what he says…

“At the present time, YAMAHA have developed their singing synthesis
technology for the PC only. They have not announced any date for a Mac
version. However, they have stated that they fully appreciate the importance
of the Mac platform in the music production business and they plan to make a
Mac version available “sometime during 2004″. When they do, we will of
course offer Mac versions of our Vocaloid virtual vocalist products, which
are powered by their software engine. We appreciate that this is frustrating
news for Mac users. We will of course do all we can to encourage Yamaha to
accelerate development on the Mac platform.”

Ed is a Mac user himself, so I am sure he appreciates your frustration and patience.

Mar 19 2004
15:40
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I emailed Yamaha last night and within about 30 minutes I got this response.

* * *

From me..

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 21:12:50 -0500, antcinq wrote:
>Your website says your working on a Mac version. Do you know when it
>will be released? Do you need a beta tester (I would love to be one).
>Excellent product and congratulations.

Yahama responded…..

Thank you very much for your inquiry on VOCALOID.

Unfortunately, the definite release date has not been decided yet.

Thank you again for your attention to VOCALOID.

Sincerely Yours,
Vocaloid User Contact

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I would like to infer that they are working on it. On their website they mentioned that Mac is an important platform for the pro user and understand its importance.

Like I said before, I will be lurking here watching, listening and enjoying the trials and tribulations of others as they enjoy Vocaloid. <img class=” />

Mar 19 2004
15:57
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But I would still like to be a pain in the back of the neck (back there just below the hairline) about why most software companies don’t put out Mac versions along-side PC versions by default ..eh? :P

Mar 19 2004
16:05
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I guess it’s because the Mac Market is about 10% of the PC market and they haven’t got the PC version working properly yet. <img class=” />
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Mar 19 2004
16:20
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Well, in the world of music production, this isn’t the case. It’s more like 70% are Mac users. And yet companies feeding this market don’t seem to know this, how can that be?

Mar 19 2004
16:57
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Maybe they don’t expect serious studio producers to use it, and assumed that most of the users will be home users. After all, of the people on this forum, how many of us are home/amateurs and how many are working professionally in a studio?
Chris

Mar 20 2004
03:47
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The question of “why not two platforms” is, in my humble opinion, too expensive to launch for a brand new product like Vocaloid. Over the years I’ve come to know some of the beta testers (for Emagic Logic) and others “in the know” and they claim that writing a sophisticated program for two platforms is extremely time consuming which means expensive. I think that is the bottomline. Time and money.

Personally, I do not blame Yamaha for only making this for PC – for now. I presume this Vocaloid was programmed by people were most comfortable writing code for the PC and not the Mac. Now that the code is out and the bugs are being worked out, it will be easier for them to write for the Mac (or hire a Mac based programer to transcribe the code). Of course, this is my speculation. I really have no idea how this magical software is create or works other than it allows me to be creative and work.

I do not want to start a flame war, but having used Emagic Logic (for 11 years now) using both operating systems for professional recording, I must say that the Mac is easier and more consistent.

I do think that NOT ever creating a popular program for both operating systems is stupid. I believe that with Vocaloid, getting into the hands of creative musicians regardless of operating systems who just might create a “hit song” should be their objective (the “hit song” will create buzz for the software). These creative people use both PC’s and Mac’s and hitting the widest audience seems to make sense.

I remain optomistic that we’ll see a Mac version by the end of this year.

I would like to restate an earlier comment of mine “keep the tunes coming. I enjoy what all of you are doing with Vocaloid”.

Best regards

Mar 20 2004
08:38
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I think most computer users will agree with you, that the Mac is (and always has been), on balance, a better machine than the PC. If someone desperately wants vocaloid, I suppose they would buy a PC. I had to buy a more powerful one before I could run the software. I wouldn’t get too enthusiastic about this “wonderful” software just yet, at least until they iron out some of the bugs. The idea is brilliant, the potential is enormous, but the reality only gets about 6 out of 10 at the moment for me. I have used Vocaloid much less over the last couple of weeks and gone back to working on some of my usual instrumental tracks. (I may add Lola at a leter data) This is not to say I’ve lost interest in Lola, just that I don’t think she is quite up to what I need yet; coupled with the fact that I also need to get much better at programming her. For this, we need a lot more help (tutorial) on some of the aspects. It’s great if you have hours to spend experimenting with changing all the voice parameters, but I don’t. As I say. The potential is there…..
Cheers
Chris

Mar 21 2004
01:48
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One bit of curiosity. What digital audio software are you using. Are you synching the two together or dumping a wave file of the tracks into VOCALOID? Essentially, I’m curious “how to” write the vocals onto original tracks?

Mar 21 2004
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In the past I have always written instrumental music and originally based this all araound an Alesis sequencer and various midi keyboards and modules linked to tape via a mixing desk.
I moved over, a year ago, to doing everything digitally on a Korg Triton Studio. I can create all the instrumental tracks, mix them, apply effects and burn the CD all on one piece of kit. When Lola came along there was no way to synch her with the Korg as Vocaloid does not output midi synch. I had never bothered much with music on the PC, except for writing the musical score of the pieces. So I have to create an audio file of Lola’s performance, and import it into my score writer, where I write the instrumental parts (before or after). I send the midi from the score writer to the Korg, and the audio from Lola. There I can mix the two together and apply effects. The trick is to make sure the tempos are the same for the Lola and instrumental parts. I’ve had no probs with timings yet. When Vocaloid gets the VSTi working, it will be possible to play your Vocaloid track directly in your sequencer. This won’t help me.
I thought it would be nice to add some vocal texture in my instrumental music. I’m not really a song writer (I can’t do lyrics to save my life), but I like the sound of the “human” voice. Yeah, I know Lola isn’t human, but she’s the nearest I can find at the moment without getting a real singer in!
I just don’t have the time at the moment to experiment for hours with all the various settings. The sounds I want are not easy to produce. I spent days just getting one word to sound right. Maybe I expect too much…..?
Cheers
Chris

Mar 21 2004
14:57
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Vocaloid will sync to a lot of sequencers/studios via rewire. Rewire is a fairly new program so you may have to update there as I did. Or you can just save the vocaloid file as a wave export from vocaloid and then run your studio to record along with a midi file.

Mar 21 2004
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Oh yeah, I use Ntracks studio to do all the above and convert to mp3 also. 45 dollar program. Quartz freeware will also do it but some of their features expire after a number of days.

Aug 19 2009
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How to run Classic Mac OS on you computer? I have a PC and a Mac and I want to run the Classic Mac Operating System on one. I want to do it virtually, (running on a virtual machine). Can someone please help me 1. Download the OS, 2. Install it on the virtual PC and 3. Configure it. Thanks!

Jan 29 2011
17:44
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OHAY GAIZ. Bumping this from 2 years ago, :U But I have a Solution. Mind you, this ONLY works if you’re running an intel and NOT a PowerPC.

[url=http://sourceforge.jp/projects/mikuinstaller/downloads/32394/MikuInstaller-20080803.dmg:1g92a56n]MikuInstaller[/url:1g92a56n]
This thing installs VOCALOID on your mac and it works. It’s actually what I use~

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