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Mike Oldfield
Sep 10 2005
15:17
johnnok
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I checked out his website, and on one of his songs he uses vocaloid, not sure which voice, too bad there isn’t a mp3 audio snippet of it on there, really curious about people in the industry who actually put it to use and how it sounds like :)

[quote:ye4l7e5v] The Gate
“I wanted to use the virtual vocal software called Vocaloid. If you take the raw sound, it’s not that good, but through various plug-ins, you can make it sound beautiful. The title comes from my grandfather, Michael Liston, who was from Cork. I knew he’d disappeared one night and returned three years later, but then I discovered that he’d been drafted into the Munster Fusiliers during WW1, and fought in Ypres in France, where the Menin Gate memorial was built after the war. Visit the museum in Ypres and see what remains of the trenches… for me, this track got exactly that mood.”[/quote:ye4l7e5v]

It’s true what he says about the raw sound though, needs a little bit of work, but normal vocals need that too hehehe. Anyone else know people who’ve used vocaloid on their albums? If there’s a snippet of the mp3 on the artists site would be nice too.

Sep 21 2005
11:44
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That’s the main problem with Vocaloid. It doesn’t do the basics of what it should. It requires the use of third party software to make it useable.

It’s like buying Adobe Photoshop and then discovering that you have to purchase more software to actually alter images.

It’s a perfect example of releasing / selling software before it is ready. I guess that those of us who have purchased it are now the de facto financiers for this Research and Development effort.

Jan 19 2006
20:16
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Hello…I just joined this site (cool vocaloid stuff all around :P )…I’ve used Lola on a few documentary beds out there (i recently added one as a download…waiting for it to be approved) …I’ve had the program for a year now and am just getting back into using it with the new upgrade.(after about a seven month hiatus where it just sat on my hard drived and wasn’t used)…I think Lola works great for mondo/mournful/giallo morricone style tracks using vowels….wordless soulful vowels are nice …also as padding for choir programs and synth beds….once again using a vowel and floating it across the whole mix….

Mar 23 2006
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[quote="gstandard":107o4g2d]…the main problem with Vocaloid. It doesn’t do the basics of what it should….
It’s a perfect example of releasing / selling software before it is ready. I guess that those of us who have purchased it are now the de facto financiers for this Research and Development effort.[/quote:107o4g2d]

I agree that the usability of the editor is from the last century, that is probably because the programmers are <img class=” /> Simple things like copying and pasting a singer are done through strange reassign GUI’s that I only know from the telecom industry.

As a (investor <img class=” /> )buyer of the software I have have great trust in Yamaha technology, just think that Zero-G can use som help.

The market for this software won’t be big until it is super userfriendly.

:? why am I writing this? I have to work

Apr 21 2006
01:34
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Hello there,
If you search Mike’s homepage you can listen to audio samples of the album containing vocaloid, there are two songs.
As for the comment about Vocaloid not sounding good without 3rd party products (plugins) to tell you the truth, is there any instrument out there that don’t require FX added after creating a sequence, whether its EQ or Compression and so forth. Les face it, if your serious about music, you will have loads of plugins already for your host program, I lost count how many I have, the Diamond wave bundle is amongst my favourite.
To help make vocaloid sound good consider light compression and reverb with a little stereo widener, not too much or she/he will begin to faze, also maybe a delay plugin, this should be enough for you to play around with vocaloid for now.

Feb 9 2007
16:09
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Problems with raw sounds are not unusal for “simulation” programs like vocaloid. You´ll find comparable problems if you are using string and horn simulations. Naked sounds from acoustic sources are more often than not really nasty. For me the raw vocaloid sound is basically okay… something like a rough diamond. <img class=” />

Dec 16 2008
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Hello, sorry if my first post here sounds a little confrontational (and long!) <img class=” /> , but I would have to (respectfully) take issue with the complaint that Vocaloid "doesn’t do what it should". It’s supposed to produce a human(ish) voice – end of story. I.e. it should do what you could have a singer stand in your studio and do – so if you’ve hired in a singer and they stand there and sing, what you get on the tape is just the raw voice, which as any engineer can explain then needs a lot of treatment (compress, EQ, limit, plus whatever fx inc reverb, delay etc) before it’ll sit right in a mix (classical, folk, acoustic jazz etc excepted). If Zero-G/PowerFX were selling a Vocal Synth + voice-channel processor/FX bundle to produce a finished track, you’d have a point, but they don’t claim to include onboard effects, so I don’t understand why anyone expects anything other than a bare voice that then needs to be processed and mixed… :)
Personally I think Vocaloid is an incredible step along the man-machine integration road: it isn’t perfect yet, but look at other envelope-pushing areas… Sputnik was 1957, man orbiting the earth was 1961, man on the moon was 1969 – and I suspect that emulating the human voice is actually not much less complex, just on a different scale! <img class=” />
FYI, I got Miriam quite a while ago but haven’t put in sufficient time to produce anything other than experiments. I’m about to plunge in over Xmas with Prima, and I must say that the considerable improvement in realism inspires me quite a bit more, even though like others here I’d have preferred a less classical sounding voice – swings and roundabouts I guess.
Chas

Dec 16 2008
18:15
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No doubt it is only your opinion.

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