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Sep 29 2008
11:55
bibouba
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try to understand how works the phoneme in vocaloid and it look very complicate. I try this sentence " bibou est le plus grand" which is in spanish with the pronunciation "Bibu e leu plu gran" (bibou est el mas grande).

I can’t do the simple "e" (sound like [b:1nfo0vni]E[/b:1nfo0vni] of [b:1nfo0vni]E[/b:1nfo0vni] vil) and the most difficult is to do the "plus" (in phonetique is sound like "ply" as plutarc.

Someone can help me with these little exemples in order to help me for the understanding.

Thx for you help (and sorry for my bad english).

Sep 29 2008
15:04
Giuseppe
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To be able to help you we need to know with that voice you work.

Sep 29 2008
15:24
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I work with prima.

Thx for you reply

Sep 29 2008
16:38
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Prima can sing in a good French with a little more work,
phonemes have no problem with Vocaloid, just know which one to use.

I don’t know the French language, only a bit, I believe that the pronunciation can be:

"Bibu es le pl(u) grand" I would make this phrase:

(v i:) (b U) (e s) (l0 e) (p l0 U) (g {)=short (r Q N D)

Phonemes also depend on the speed of the song and the length of musical notes.

I hope to have been able to help you.

Greetings

Sep 30 2008
12:19
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thanx a lot for your help.

I wonder why tu put 0 after the l ?

and if i ve one note playing p l0 U will be prononce in this note or it will be cutted ?

rgds

Sep 30 2008
12:33
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with your exemple try to write "magnific"

so normally should be

m a -n I -f I -k

Is it correct ?

Sep 30 2008
12:44
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The "l" without "0" is used more by the end of word,It can go without "0" initially but the sounds is differently.

Yes, to write "magnific" is correct, but try better

(m V N) (n i:) (f I k)

Sep 30 2008
12:45
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The "l" without "0" is used more by the end of word,It can go without "0" initially but the sounds is differently.

Yes, to write "magnific" is correct, but try better

(m V N) (n i:) (f I k)

Sep 30 2008
13:14
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in the phonetic symbol table it is said that N sound ng ?

(m V N) should sound mang ?

and for (p l0 U) is it sound in one note or is it cut in 2 notes ?

Sep 30 2008
16:06
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I think you have to do some tests,
you speak French, I do not, in Spanish is pronounced "ng".
If in French is pronounced the "g" put a "g" (m V g) (n i:) ( f I k)

Sep 30 2008
16:09
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Sorry , I wanted to say: in Spanish is pronounced "gn"

Oct 1 2008
08:49
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Thanks for you help. I tried yesterday evening and almost everything was ok except for "grand".

I tried to write g R Q N. It was ok. But after that i tried to have just the sound "an" like in the word andalucia but the syllabe "an" just shorter. I didn’t find the solution.

May be we could open a topic with some words taht we find to help the community and to understand how vocaloid sounds work, e.g :
– petit (french, small in english) p e -th i:, …

but many thx for your help

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