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Miriam could be my nirvana
Mar 23 2004
01:09
aurora
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Hi all, newbie here….

I’ve stumbled across this vocaloid technology from hearing about it on an Adeimus forum. In short, I’ve only really discovered Miriam’s work with Adeimus recently, lol…guess I had other things on my mind when their music first came out. It blew me away though, fantastic music and haven’t stopped listening since…

I’m very much a home amateur when it comes to making music myself. I’ve only recently got the bug again after investing in Reason 2.5. What I’m into at the moment is composing pieces along the lines of Adeimus. Their style has inspired me to take music creation seriously again. So you can only imagine my delight in hearing that Miriam Stockley is the subject of this latest installment in this new technology.

I will deffinately be purchasing it I think. One thing I’d like to ask the devs is how optomistic can I be about getting a good quality vocal Adeimus style? Chanting and choral passages in phenomes basically….I understand we aren’t at the stage yet to aproximate all the nuances of a real voice but it still excites me with the possibilties.

I understand only vsti compatable apps are supported? or can it be run with Reason?….I guess I can at the very least save vocals as wavs then import them into Reason’s NN-XT sampler, etc

At anyrate, I’m really excited about it, can’t wait for any demo mp3s to appear

Cheers 8)
Dave

Mar 23 2004
01:45
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Hi and welcome along! I think you might be able to get Vocaloid into Reason via ReWire.

After reading your words about Adeimus, I feel I need to get an album of theirs and check ’em out. Which album do you think best sums them up?

Mar 23 2004
09:16
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Regarding Adiemus. This is really a convenient name for contemporary “classical” composer and former rock musician, Karl Jenkins, and his various collaborations with varius artists including Miriam Stockly – soon to become a vocaloid.
It doesn’t matter which album you get, probably the first one is the best – “Songs of Sanctuary”. The first track is very well known and displays Miriam’s voice very well. I doubt whether it would ever be possible to capture that sound using Vocaloid, but I’m looking forward to being pleasantly proved wrong!
AS for Adiemus, sorry to say I think it’s overstayed it’s welcome. The first Album was interesting but Jenkins then milked the formula ad nausiam and all the others just regurgitate the same ideas. I like some of Jenkins’ later work but I just wish he would put Adiemus to bed. Clearly it makes him loads of money so he’s not likely to! Just my humble opinion…
Chris

Mar 23 2004
09:52
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Unfortunately both the vocaloid editor and reason2.5 are rewire slaves, so they cant synchronise them together…. However, you CAN have them both following the same rewire master, eg. cubase or similar. All transport controls are linked and all audio tracks from all 3 bits of software can be routed through the same master mixer (in cubase).

Mar 23 2004
16:34
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Thanks for the response guys, at least I know where I stand with Reason now…not really clued up on the techie side of getting diff apps working together.

As for Adeimus, yes, it can be a bit samey and I would recommend the first album Songs of Sanctuary as well, or a ‘best of’ compilation. As I said earlier I’m new to Karl Jenkins style and find it very inspiring in parts :) …..but I’ve always had a thing for new age orchestral works…

I do hope Miriam fits the bill, gotta be better than the very basic ooh aah choral samples that come with Reason and other apps, lol

Cheers
Dave

Mar 14 2011
05:28
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There’s no other way people can view Nico stuffs since you’re required to have an account there to view any file. So for all non-Japanese-speaking people, YouTube’s the only way they can find Vocaloid songs created by JP talents.

Oh and, on Nico? Most stuffs are original and people actually respect those and don’t just plain out rip them off and repost it. That and the P name that’s sometimes given to the uploaders also defines who uploaded what. =3
As for Adeimus, yes, it can be a bit samey and I would recommend the first album Songs of Sanctuary as well, or a ‘best of’ compilation. As I said earlier I’m new to Karl Jenkins style and find it very inspiring in parts Smile …..but I’ve always had a thing for new age orchestral works…

I do hope Miriam fits the bill, gotta be better than the very basic ooh aah choral samples that come with Reason and other apps, lol

Mar 18 2011
07:11
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Hi All, Golden
I would recommend the retail box Miriam for the printed manual. In the USA, boxed Miriam is only 99 bucks.

Yes, over synth voices, Vocaloids not only sound better tone wise and human like wise, but offer special editing tools that synth voices on a synth or even synth voice samples do not have.

And of course synth voices can not sing any sounds or words you want. On my upcoming kids CD, Miriam has sung every work so far but one word I had to enter manual edit.

On my upcoming Tuning Your Voice With Sounds CD, only one English sound did I have to edit or enter manually a W.

Its not only words and sounds that the Vocaloids can sing, but you can give them accents, and make the consonants louder than the vowels or the other way around. And simply by changing the spacing between syllables, you can change how the singer sings the words or sounds.

Vocaloid Singers also can do Vocal Bends, and Vocal Slides, Swoops, Vocal Percussion parts, yodels, moans, groans, and whatever vocal styles and attacks you can come up with.

You can also draw in tempo changes, dynamics changes, assign different kinds of vibratos and attacks to different words or lyric lines. Pretty much as you learn how to use the editor, anything you can imagine your Vocaloid doing it can do.

And a Vocaloids Vocal Range is 2 or 3 or 3 times greater than a human singer.

Happy Vocaloid Singing
Timothy Kelly
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Aug 28 2011
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Miriam Stockly? Looks like I’ve got to go look her up!

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