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Jan 11 2008
19:30
anders
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You can Download Prima now and save £££/$$$!

There’s a limited amount available for this pre-release offer.

Here’s the link:

http://www.prima-vocaloid.com/

Jan 11 2008
22:02
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[quote="anders":9acxwqmj]You can Download Prima now and save £££/$$$!

There’s a limited amount available for this pre-release offer.

Here’s the link:

http://www.prima-vocaloid.com/[/quote:9acxwqmj]

Anders–

Thanks for the info.

You wrote earlier that a demo version will be available. When? $170 is a lot of money to put out (probably seems more expensive here in US, due to low value of the dollar), for software that one has not tried out, and is non-refundable. You really should have a demo version, for people to ttry out the software.

And—I hope the demo is only time-limited (at least 30 days), not crippled in functionality. With a demo that is crippled, one cannot really try out the program decently.

Anyone here bought and tried this yet??? If so, reviews???

Your post sounds like a Madison Avenue adman though–"limited amount available". That’s funny. <img class=” /> You mean they only printed a limited amount? Oh, wait a minute, it’s a download, no physical media to produce. Do you mean that after a certain number of people have paid the $170 to download it, Zero-G, will not allow anyone else to pay them for the download? I doubt it. Makes a good ad though–get people to think they are getting a great deal–and they better do it soon or lose the opportunity! Sorry, I’m not falling for that.

Also, $170 doesn’t sound like such a great bargain. How much will the price be later? (And most likely, retailers will sell it for less than your list price.)

In any case, I’m digressing. Back to my main point—-when will the demo be available for download?

Thanks again for your work on this project.

Jan 12 2008
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Hi, Anders,

I wanted to listen a NORMAL ENGLISH pop music song demo from Prima, any existing? thanks 8)

Jan 12 2008
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Yamaha is in the process of making a demo version of Prima. It will be fully functioning. We wanted it ready before the release, but for some reason it’s taken them longer than expected. Should be ready soon though.
The download version is £30/$56 cheaper.

Jan 12 2008
11:54
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[quote="des1gner":jj6nl77p]Hi, Anders,

I wanted to listen a NORMAL ENGLISH pop music song demo from Prima, any existing? thanks 8)[/quote:jj6nl77p]

Hi des1gner,

There is Prima pop demos, but for copyright reasons we can’t use them as official demos. When Prima is officially released (next Tuesday), the people who made them are of course allowed to put them in the the user demo section of this forum or youtube etc. So you can hear them soon.

Jan 19 2008
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[quote="anders":2ngieq7h][quote="des1gner":2ngieq7h]Hi, Anders,

I wanted to listen a NORMAL ENGLISH pop music song demo from Prima, any existing? thanks 8)[/quote:2ngieq7h]

Hi des1gner,

There is Prima pop demos, but for copyright reasons we can’t use them as official demos. When Prima is officially released (next Tuesday), the people who made them are of course allowed to put them in the the user demo section of this forum or youtube etc. So you can hear them soon.[/quote:2ngieq7h]

Actually some are available now, although they are not "official". (Created by the same guy who created the "official demos", however.) Go to:

[url:2ngieq7h]http://www.myspace.com/giuseppeprima[/url:2ngieq7h]

As discussed in another thread, however, Prima’s English pronunciation is rather disappointing. She sounds much better in Italian.

Jan 19 2008
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[quote="anders":3axtjjsu]Yamaha is in the process of making a demo version of Prima. It will be fully functioning. We wanted it ready before the release, but for some reason it’s taken them longer than expected. Should be ready soon though.
The download version is £30/$56 cheaper.[/quote:3axtjjsu]

Well, I hope it’s ready soon. There are many of us curious about Vocaloid 2 and Prima, but we really want to be able to fully try it out, before shelling out a big chunk of money for it.

It isn’t enough to hear some wonderful demos that others have made, like those we have heard from Giuseppe. One has to see what the product is like to work with oneself, with one’s own style of working, the style of music one is working with, etc. Nothing can substitute for fully being able to try the product oneself.

I’m surprised Yamaha is making the demo, rather than Zero-G, as Prima is a Zero-G product (although based on the Yamaha Vocaloid 2 technology). If the demo will be fully functional, as you say, and as I think it should be, I wouldn’t think it should take any time to come out with the demo version, since the product is already ready. Just take the existing product, and slap some kind of time restriction on it, where it will stop working after 30 or 60 days, whatever. (Perhaps one could purchase a license key to "unlock" it, after trying it out.) As there are many such time-limited demo apps available, the technology to do that is nothing new, must be readily available. Although I am no programmer, I would think that would be something quite simple for a programmer to do, and could probably be created in less than a half hour–to take an existing program, and add a time limitation to it. So, I don’t understand why the demo is not already available, since the program is. I hope it’s ready soon, as I am curious about Prima.

Although I suspect that most readers here, like me, are waiting for the trial version, is there anyone here who has purchased it already, and started to use it? If so, could you please write a review here, and share your experience with it? It would be interesting to hear from those who have tried it.

Jan 20 2008
02:37
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My copy is on order from soundsonline <dot> com. They’re having a namm sale going on at the moment. Ending Sunday January 20.

I just went ahead and got it based on the demos heard at zero-g and also based on my experience with Miriam.

Jan 21 2008
04:43
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[quote="Sequent":wdfsyt0q]My copy is on order from soundsonline <dot> com. They’re having a namm sale going on at the moment. Ending Sunday January 20.

I just went ahead and got it based on the demos heard at zero-g and also based on my experience with Miriam.[/quote:wdfsyt0q]

What was their price? Better than the download price here?

Please write us your review, when you try it.

Jan 21 2008
07:18
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[quote="maiki":1qpyg275]

Actually some are available now, although they are not "official". (Created by the same guy who created the "official demos", however.) Go to:

[url:1qpyg275]http://www.myspace.com/giuseppeprima[/url:1qpyg275]

As discussed in another thread, however, Prima’s English pronunciation is rather disappointing. She sounds much better in Italian.[/quote:1qpyg275]

Thanks for your info. I doubt that the pronunciation problem can be solved by some other method. But I need to try it so I ordered prima at soundsonline also but without discount (us$199+shipping) :?

Jan 23 2008
20:29
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[quote="maiki":1zz1m6j4]What was their price? Better than the download price here?[/quote:1zz1m6j4]

They are shipping it for USD 175 now.

Feb 9 2008
22:40
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[quote="anders":1vytjjv5]Yamaha is in the process of making a demo version of Prima. It will be fully functioning. We wanted it ready before the release, but for some reason it’s taken them longer than expected. Should be ready soon though.
[/quote:1vytjjv5]

Anders (or anyone else knowledgeable), it is now a month later than this post of yours, over a month since Prima was officially released, and I still see no trial version.

Do you know what’s going on? It really shouldn’t be much of a development chore, is it, to slap a time restriction (stops working after a month, etc.) on an existing product?

Could they have changed their mind about providing a full-functioning trial version, for potential buyers to download, and try before buying? If so, I think that’s a serious mistake, that could potentially lose the product many buyers.

Regardless of how nice-sounding Giuseppe’s demos are, I think most users, like myself, will want to try out the product thoroughly, to see how it works for them, before spending $200 on it.

If you have any way of giving input to the decision-makers in that process, I would suggest that you do so.

—————
Unrelated observation–strange isn’t it, that if one goes to http://www.vocaloid.com, there is no mention of Vocaloid 2, and the latest news is from 2005. Why doesn’t Yamaha update that site?

———————

Still curious to hear reviews from those who have been using Prima already.

Oct 30 2009
04:46
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Hello,

I purchased the downloadable version 3 days ago. The download itself was painless if rather large at 1.5 gigs. The install was simple and I got it working right away, no probs. The price was right too, offer expirres soon folks.(oct 31)

I had compared the availiable Vocaloids on the market beforehand and it struck me that Prima was most impressive. Her clear, almost crytaline voice got my attention right away. I’m not an opera buff and i don’t really need an opera singer on a regular basis but Prima’s voice has that sweet spot, tonality wise.

Once I got it up and running I was surprised at how easy it was to edit parameters. I was freehanding dynamics and brightess curves in no time. Ease of use and a smart, if somewhat spartan interface made it fairly easy to start making startling sounds right out of the box so to speak.
I love the vibrato options and the ability to draw pitch changes such as vocal scoops and glide down.

Thanks to some excellent online tutorials (Guiseppe I’m looking at you)
I was able to output a usable wave file that fit quite nicely in an arrangement that I had been working on….and the villagers rejoiced!!

I’m just starting to learn about Prima but I can honestly say that I’m glad I spent the XX bucks.

A word of caution. This product requires a heck of a lot of tweaking to achieve disctinctive results, it’s not for everybody. Also, having music production software to work alonside Prima is pretty much a must if you want to render a finished song with music added.

Feb 11 2011
23:41
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Hi Everyone,
After watching and listening to all the Prima demos and especially after watching Jose’s outstanding Prima Video Demo showing the Real Time VST features. That closed the sale for me.

For much of what I do teaching singing, even through I do not teach opera or any one specific singing style. Prima sounds like an opera singer. That is the way opera singers say their vowels, they do not use a very wide range of how they say vowels.

Which is why most opera singers can not sing pop, top 40, or show tunes. They still sing those non opera styles with opera vowels.

There are not a lot of vowels in pop music. Which tends to sing vowels like we speak them in daily conversation.

But for wordless backing tracks and experimental singing, opera vowels is not a problem. I do not think editing Prima will be difficult once the new interface is learned.

I would have preferred Sweet Ann but Prima has the 99 buck download the the direct email address for Prima owners to use for help, if one needs any.

It will be interesting to see how Prima sounds using the same IPA word and sound codes that Miriam has. I like that each Vocaloid is different sounding, and you make different tweaks to bring out the best of each voice.

After I learn the Prima interface, which seems far easier than the Vocaloid 1 is. I will post a review and also a video or two.

Happy Vocaloid Prima
Timothy Kelly
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