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new album release free to vu.net users
Feb 2 2011
21:13
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the first official SA Character Album will be released on a tentative date of April 22 the title is Bring Me Home
vocals are done by SA-00 Verona who is an in house custom made vocaloid package that can sing in french English Japanese and Spanish and will in the future if we get to it have additional language packs added for Italian Hungarian dutch Swedish and German.

Feb 3 2011
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this is a pre release offering that is open to everyone at no charge once the full album is completed these three tracks will remain open for all the full album will however be free to only those who are registered members of this forum as a token of my gratitude for this community

http://www.mediafire.com/?cc5ssxdm6jlg7

Feb 4 2011
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Hi Everyone
How does one create a custom Vocaloid?
Happy Singing
Timothy Kelly
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Feb 4 2011
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You can’t. IMOS says she works at CRYPTON or something of the sort. :/

There is a way to make something like a custom VOCALOID. This is a program called UTAU. With UTAU, you record your own syllables and compile them. Mind you, it is tedious to make an english voice because of all the syllables. The current best UTAU with english is [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0tNshQkhYc:2n25gcsu]Neko Kanochi[/url:2n25gcsu]. This is also just an alpha of her voice.

And 2… This is… Not a VOCALOID. These are currently existing popular songs with pitch and echo effects on them. Human voice. the singers are Lady Gaga and Ian Van Dahl with audio modification to their original songs. Definitely not a VOCALOID. At least try to like… actually USE VOCALOID and edit their parameters so they have a chance at fooling people. Know about Teto Kasane? She tricked MANY people into believing she was a real VOCALOID. They bought a domain name for her website and put work into demo songs.

Now mind you IMOS. It is terrible to advertise a product with cover songs. If this real was a new VOCALOID, there are PLENTY of VOCALOID users that would be happy to write an original song for you. I mean… I don’t want to sound rude, but… marketing techniques…. are… important….

Feb 4 2011
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Hi All, CF
I do my Vocaloid editing between 1 am and 2 am. Learn something new about the editor everyday.

I thought maybe Yamaha had some kind of Vocaloid Development Kit. Since I already sing, have no desire to turn my own voice into a Vocaloid.

Happy Vocaloid Singing
Timothy Kelly
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Feb 4 2011
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If they did release a Dev kit, one would need a voice actor anyway. There is no VOCALOID with a completely synthetic voice.

Feb 8 2011
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in order to use the voice of lady gaga there was some copyright agreements that had to be worked out and some usage rights purchased she fully owns all legal and monitary rights to the vdb and the lyrics. also ian van dahl has made thease same legal arngements for the use of his lyrics and other information used to create the vdb and vsq of his songs SA-00 Verona was origionaly developed for lady gaga she owns the rights to her fully and on the other remark made about developer kits for vocaloid. they do exist but they involve some royalty usage rights and legal constraints they are not for the beginer if you want more information on how to obtain a V.D.K and the devel lic i will be glad to post that information as well. for the record. artist like ian van dahl and lady gaga are not jerks who refuse to work with others if you have a good idea or wish to work with someone like them on something you have thought of contact their agent more often than not if you have an idea that will further their cause they will allow you to move ahead and provide you with resources as you need them

Feb 8 2011
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all of the mmd videos and nearly all our SA projects are a joint effort something you may not know about the superbowl halftime preformance by the black eyed peas. they needed a highly complex interface capable of not only real time audio dsp and mixing but also effects lighting control voice chanel editing and realtime noise filtering in a small package part of that one off system that was made was the core package that Verona is built around other parts of that system came from ibm lucas arts the same entity that made the starwars movies and dylanworks a coustume builder that specializes in highly complex props coustumes and stage systems. we started work on that one off system that was only going to be used for that show 9 weeks before the superbowl. and we did that work without any assurance that it would even be used thats how it is with 87% of the specialty jobs we get
C-Media S.A.G is not a part of CFM any more it was aquired last year by seattle based realnetworks. at this time however we are on a waiting list of aquired divisions that may be resold to another company or if needed simply closed down as a cost saving measure

Feb 8 2011
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the album Bring Me Home is done with authorization by individual content owners with the condition that if it is placed on retail each of the content right owners whos voice data lyrics or muisical compositions
appears in that album be paid royalties on a per track sold basis. the remaining revenue from that sale would be used to help pay our operating fees and other fees such as future useage rights purchases and royalty payments to contributing artists and composers.
as of may 12th 2010 we have been operating on funding provided by myself and some of the other members of the team. thats not much of an operating budget. for our part of the work on the superbowl halftime show we only made $12,000. thats not much considering the project cost total for that show was just a grand shy of a million. pick on me as you like but some of us have a lot of work to do that goes un noticed in the public ive had to let go 3 members of the team thismorning a fact that sadens me we have more outgoing expenses than we have income since being sold last year my team of programers artist and software testers has dwindled from 300 down to just 27 in todays rapidly evolving world of technology. small outfits like us do not survive more than a few years unless we are taken on as a part of a much larger company. this team started 9 years ago isnt made of highly paid professional programers artists and developers.

Feb 8 2011
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it is made of college students freelance software developers and members of the open source software developement world as well as creative thinking individuals from around the gloab who pose their ideas and sugetions to us and most vital to our existance are the artist composers and singers who provide our most vital resource a voice and a song without which our mision of finding a way to give the millions without a voice a voice in this world my sister haruka- started this project because she had a sister born without a voice. i am that sister , i do not have a voice my only way to communicate with those around me is by writing or sign language. we all have a purpose in this world the purpose of this team and the artist around the world who lend us their support is to bring a voice to those who have none be it by birth or from some event that has taken it away

Feb 8 2011
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…I really hope you’re not talking about the MMD videos on your youtube… The PMD edits that have no original modeling or Motion data?

Again… if your VOCALOID IS real… there are PLENTY of people who would make original content for you. From scratch models and VSQ files.

There are two thing that would make me believe you.
1. An actual paid domain website and/or any mention of your VOCALOID in CRYPTON’s website/blog.

2. Video of your VOCALOID program running. Screenshots. SOMETHING. Not just audio manipulations of existing songs. I can do that and get the same result that you’re showing us. I’d like something.. you know…. ORIGINAL?

And I’m sorry… I really don’t mean to be like… pointing fingers or picking on anyone, but I don’t want to come to this website, finding a thread for an upcoming VOCALOID and realizing it’s a trick with next to no effort put into it.

Ohya. I made a Lady Gaga voice synth too. Alpha and probably won’t ever be complete, but… [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0K0CqiaEq4:379k5085]GaGaPoid[/url:379k5085].

Feb 9 2011
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i doubt you will be able to locate us in this years department listings at crypton but any time upto aprial of last year we are in it oh do me a favor keep up the intresting posts some of the preformers who use our aplications are finding this thread quite entertaining that latest one is a direct quote of Stefani and echoed by Annemie also a friend and active team member who is known publicly as ian van dahl

Feb 9 2011
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IMOS… I can look at CRYPTON’s blog all the way from February of 2006…

And I will continue that favor of keeping up the ‘interesting posts’.

I JUST want some proof. Something a little more believable than your Audio manipulations. I don’t care how much your performers find this thread ‘interesting’. It’s the internet. I couldn’t care less of how people I don’t know think how stupid I am.

But anyway. PROOF. In all of CRYPTON’s blogs, there is absolutely NOTHING about VOCALOID SA-00. The only thing you’ve given us are cheap audio manips and painfully low quality MMD videos. You’re using YOUTUBE for your website for Christ’s sake. If you are making an official CRYPTON product, I don’t know why you couldn’t open up something on your own website.

I DARE you to post your own VOCALOID VSQ. If you can get VOCALOIDs to sound that life like in your demos, then, hey. Absolutely amazing. But they’re so… not VOCALOID… and have no work put into them…

Again… I don’t want to be rude or anything… I just hate it when people create a hoax and deliver it with such low quality.

So then… I’m going to work on a fake VOCALOID now… Just a heads up.

Feb 10 2011
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Hello All, IMOS
IMOS, thanks for the highly detailed multiple replies. I have taught music to a few deaf people, and only one who was both deaf and could not speak.

A Lady Ga Ga, sounds like a great idea for a Vocaloid. She is very popular, which would be an understatement.

Much success with your Vocaloid and music projects.

Happy Vocaloid Singing
Timothy Kelly
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Feb 10 2011
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on stage i am known as Ian van dahl, my real name is Annemie Coenen nothing personal intended but I’ve finally decided to speak my piece on this as a member of the team and friend of chihaya. 6 years ago I joined the team along with my long time friend and co producer Erik Vanspauwen. it is true that in the crypton blogs there is no mention of SA-00 Verona, that is because they do not normally blog about private projects owned and developed by outside developers. she is not slated for release she is a development platform written and coded by chihaya’s team. chihaya’s mother was employed by cfm for 8 years and the team is grateful to crypton for allowing us to use their facility’s and resources for the past 4 years.

Sincerely
Annemie Coenen

Feb 10 2011
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Hi All, Annime
Thanks Annime. I enjoyed the Vocaloid Video. Reminded me of Tron.
Happy Vocaloid Singing
Timothy Kelly
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Feb 10 2011
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PROOF. PROOF. PROOF. PROOF. PLEASE.

Saying that you’re Annime isn’t proof. She’s a professional sophisticated adult. I doubt her grammar is that bad.

Really… Please… Just post something to get me to believe it exists.
I give props to you for trying to carry this trick out so enthusiastically, but it’s so poorly put together that it wouldn’t trick an ecstatic VOCALOID fan who has to deal with peoples Pitchloids and recolors all the time.
Look. There were 4 fake VOCALOIDs. They tricked so many people that it was almost sad. Teto Kasane, Ruko Yokune, Ritsu Naine and Tei Sukone. They had original recordings for voices. Not pitched songs. They had official looking, high quality artwork and their creators paid for a website and never got a cent out of it.

Ohya. You say you’re Japanese, right? I don’t want to sound like… racist saying that all Japanese people have to look a certain way, but you have a video of yourself on youtube. You have absolutely no Japanese features whatsoever.

Feb 12 2011
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A bad literary skill is the best thing you could come up with as an attempt at character assassination. My grammar is fine when I am actually awake and I am writing in response to someone online. Oh never mind i know what you’re on about, you’re just going ape-shit because, unlike Chihaya you have no friends who are actually famous songwriters, singers, etc. don’t even try getting in a pissing match with me you will lose big time. Some of the posts you have made were amusing, but the most recent one you made went too far. I am insulted by it! In addition, i know when she gets around to reading it herself chihaya will be insulted by it to. Also as to why we chose YouTube to be our website. You do not have to pay money to use YouTube we are saving a lot of money by not buying a domain name. In the past, your asinine remarks were funny. I have a live interview coming up soon and I am going to make sure i mention you in it just to prove that you are the only one on the forum who has a loud mouth and no balls!
Annemie Coenen
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Feb 12 2011
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Trying a new approach now are we~ Trying to break me now, huh~ B3

I know I shouldn’t be "feeding the trolls", but I just find this oh so fun. Arguments are my thing. Now. While it doesn’t really phase me the slightest, please try to leave out the early-teen insults. i.e. (You have no friends that are music stars like Chihaya does, and loud mouth and no balls). Those just make you seem like you’re running out of ideas as to how to answer.

I’ve only stated what I’ve seen from you and what inferences I can make from your posts. There is absolutely no way I’ll believe you’re AnnaGrace or Gaga. Reason is that they’re so popular and known by so many people. They have plenty of haters. You think they’d take the time out of their busy schedule to pick some guy who said something bad about "their" creation? You realize that poor Stephanie must get a great mass of hate mail every week? Why would they pick me of all people to argue against?

Now. Asking for what… the fourth or fifth time for some proof of your VOCALOID project. All I’ve seen are poorly made MMD videos and, as stated before, pitched up versions of existing songs. CRYPTON is the leader in popularity and quality in the VOCALOID universe. Seeing something put together like SA-00 is doesn’t make this terribly believable. The least one could do would be to try and make some character art instead of have a Ganguro, Rainbow Luka recolor with a green skirt as an official character.

Ahh~ Whatever. I’ll be back tomorrow, like always, awaiting for your rebuttal. Looking forward to what you have to say. Have a good NiGHT~

Feb 12 2011
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Apparently, the authorities did not like my late night reply. I said people like C-F need to think before they go blowing smoke out their ass on something; they do not have any information on whatsoever.
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