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The Demos seem to be improving
Apr 11 2004
17:03
gray
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Is this a vocaloid breakthrough? All the demos seem much improved from earlier demos. And the 5 most recent added all belong to someone other than me!! (Though I do have 3 songs waiting to be put there) Keep up the good works folks and maybe we will eventually get Leon and Lola sounding like human beings.

Apr 12 2004
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Yes, there is some improvement on the horizon, and I think the reason is people letting Vocaloid’s words breathe, and they’re bringing Vocaloid out into the daylight, louder and clearer in the mix, and as a result we’re able to hear Vocaloid better. I particularly like the new Doors cover ‘The End’, a nice Rock style attempt which is very very close to coming off. I also like ‘Surrounded By Human Love extract’.

Apr 12 2004
10:01
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Yes, most of the earlier demos I feel were a little “shy” of pushing the vocaloid out front and centre in the mix. This is a common failing of many song mixes in general I’ve found, not just vocaloid stuff. The old rule of thumb in Pop music production was : “Make the lead vocal twice as loud as you think it should be and then boost it a bit more”. I noticed the (generally) muddy mixes of the user demos a while ago. My posting of “Rachel’s Song” was deliberately bold in that the vocaloid was pushed way out front in the mix (perhaps just a little too far – too bad?). Point is, with sung words, you really run a risk of over exposing the vocaloid shortcomings with a full forward out there mix, but hey – you’re right, it’s getting there slowly but surely as we grow bolder and surer. I do think that more play should be made of the – context – of presentation of those shortcomings, though. I was thinking of the old Beatles tune “Money”. Done with vocaloid in “The Beatles” original style it would probably sound giddy awful, but done in the “Flying Lizards” cover version style would probably work well enough. “All the best things in life are free….”

Apr 13 2004
03:36
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If you do it in the Beatles key you gonna have to pass it off as female vocal. LOL

Apr 13 2004
10:34
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Gray – :D Sorry, my American chum – you probably don’t know them, but the reference was to “The Flying Lizards” – a small one hit wonder type band here in Blighty a long time ago that did a wacky “homemade” pots and pans version of “Money” that featured a really odd looking lady with a very strange accent who sang in a weird monotone style. Great recording, better than the Beatles! Sounded sort of “All ze besst thinks in life are free, but you can gif zem to ze burds ant beess… I vant munny” Could be a cinch for vocaloid! We don’t know any “flying lizards”, apart from Quetzalcoatl…. :D

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