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"ai" phoneme? with Vocaloid V2 Miku
Apr 7 2009
20:26
ng2vocaloid
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I know this has probably been discussed before but I missed it…

I have the Vocaloid2 editor with Miku, but I can’t seem to get it to input sounds such as ‘ai’, they always come out as the default [a]. ‘A’ then ‘i’ is not the same phoneme in Japanese as ‘ai’. Do I have to do some trick to merge the sounds?

I can’t get it to acknowledge English input, but it is a Japanese version of the software, so that is expected. It should be able to do ‘ai’ and maybe even ‘ei’, though, right?

Thanks for any help y’all can give.

Apr 8 2009
06:28
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Miku can not sing well in English, there are sounds that are absent (vowels)

To do diphthongs correctly with Miku you can use these phonemes.

To do "ai" =(a j)

And for the syllables finished in U

example "how" (h a w)

This trick can serve for all the Japanese voices.

Greetings

Apr 8 2009
06:52
Giuseppe
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You can listen to Hatsune Miku singing in English in my blog and can download a file VSQ of example.

http://giuseppevocaloid.blogspot.com/20 … glish.html

Apr 8 2009
16:19
Luka Mitutoyo
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yes but what is the size of the cd dvd iso of the vocaliod install disk you have ? the install cd i have is a filesize of 481 mb this seems to be a bit lacking in data since the voice library should be rather masive i belive it should be about 1 or 2 Gb of data not 481 Mb as is on this cd

Apr 8 2009
21:32
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The disk I installed from is 481M also, but that is max CD size. Perhaps it is missing some voice DB?

I saw the Amazing Grace file, it was very helpful and I see one thing that I was doing wrong. It seems necessary to change the Note Properties for every note, but I cannot get it to do some combinations.

The "ai" sound in Japanese is a required one, though (pronounced like the word ‘eye’ in English). It doesn’t seem to like that.

I am confused how to get it to sing whole words on a note, like I want it to do the word Dawn. According to the dictionary lookup, that should be something like [da O: n] or [da u n]. I cannot get it to do more than [da]. I have to break the 1/4 note up into 3 pieces and use [da] [u] [n] as three separate notes, which doesn’t seem to be right. It will not even acknowledge [O:] as a phoneme at all, even though I can see it in the dictionary as ‘O:’ = ‘taught’.

Am I doing something wrong? I am a little confused on the lyric entry system.

I am starting to see why the YOWANE Haku character exists. 😀

Apr 8 2009
22:10
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All the Japanese voices have vowels different from the English voices.

In japon, as in Spain or Italy only we have five vowels. In the English voices there are more phonemes that are vocal

Miku vowels:
a (a)
e (e)
i (i)
o (o)
u (M)

The phoneme (O:) is only for the English voices.

For the word "Dawn" I recommend to write (d o n)

http://www.wordreference.com/es/transla … nword=Dawn

The ideal thing in this word is to lengthen the sound of the vowel "o"

I’m not a native English and I do not know much English language, if you think that the word "Dawn" is pronounce the "w" you can do (d o w n)

Apr 9 2009
18:56
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Thank you again for your help. I am beginning to understand how this works. Now I will have to actually enter a song, then start trying to figure out the Singer Properties. So much work! :D

I wonder why they even include the English phonemes in the dictionary when Miku cannot use it. I suppose it is possible to load Luka’s voice data into Vocaloid2. She is the only one that uses English, right?

Apr 9 2009
19:21
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I suppose that Yamaha has created a dictionary of phonemes in order that it could serve to all the voices.

Luka is the unique voice (up to the moment) that can sing in two languages.

:D

Apr 20 2009
16:58
Luka Mitutoyo
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does anyone know were i can get just a voice database for vocaloid i can register it just fine i just have not been able to find one that is like luka which by the way i would greatly apreciate having that one as it would make my life so much easier i dont care how you found it or were u got it if you know of a good source for voice db vsq and vac files please drop me a line on it im having a fit trying to manage this mess and i suck at it to

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