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Quick preview listening feature for phonetic phrases
Feb 28 2004
13:57
bobyordan
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[b:2mpwux9d]Quick preview listening feature for phonetic phrases[/b:2mpwux9d]

Could be a very useful feature. Instead of having to press play and wait
for eg 20 seconds vocaloid just analyses the eg the selected number of words I am working with. Kind of small clipboard track. :P

Perhaps even a dropdown menu with alternative phonetic suggestion, that I can select from??

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Feb 28 2004
17:06
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Keep going, Bob ….. all great ideas that would make Vocaloid much more user friendly.

Mar 19 2004
09:43
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The easiest thing would probably be to be able to select a range in the vocaloid main window and force vocaloid only to process and play this range. :) Then there should be a way that make it possible to switch between range/song mode.

The main work flow is to be able to tweak individual phrases (within a range) not a whole song. Especially if the melody is imported from a midi file.

Cheers
Bob
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Mar 19 2004
10:53
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I agree this would be very useful. I often find myself just having to work on a single word/note, trying different phonemes. It would be great to have just this one note re-rendered, rather than having to wait for the whole song.
One thing I have done to speed this up is to create a new volcaloid file with just the one word/note in it, and work on that.
Cheers
Chris
PS Another useful feature would be to have a default expression and vibrato setting for all notes. Then I wouldn’t have to drag 2 icons on to every single note, every time.

Mar 20 2004
15:15
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[quote="andromeda":14m2ui43]
PS Another useful feature would be to have a default expression and vibrato setting for all notes. Then I wouldn’t have to drag 2 icons on to every single note, every time.[/quote:14m2ui43]

Yeah or perhaps have a default value set up window, where the user can customise all default values? :)

Mar 20 2004
16:43
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Pretty good ideas Bob. I wish vocaloid had used you as a consultant when developing the program. I think they should have looked at modern sequencing software for some features. Most of them are more user friendly. Then again, I have never seen anything developed by Yamaha that was user friendly and I’ve had tons of Yamaha gear.

Mar 21 2004
23:54
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I hadn’t read this when I posted my solution to this issue on the User Tips and Tricks forum.

Mar 22 2004
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[quote="gray":3lowse90]I have never seen anything developed by Yamaha that was user friendly and I’ve had tons of Yamaha gear.[/quote:3lowse90]

I have. I love Yamaha’s Final Master and Pitch Fix plugins. They are in a class of their own. And I supose this is the point with Yamaha. The Yamaha Corporation is huge, they develop so many things. They make musical instruments, hi-fis and motorbikes, and they also have world-class music schools.

http://www.global.yamaha.com/a…..story.html

Mar 22 2004
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Yep. Hard to beat Yanaha quality. I still have my DX7 keyboard and it still sounds pretty darn good. Came with a user manual an inch thick that told you nothing unless you happen to be a rocket scientist. heh heh Perhaps they will someday soon get some of the vocaloid bugs fixed.

Mar 22 2004
20:18
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On the subject of Yamaha software useability – in the past I’ve had a Yamaha hardware sampler, the A3000. It was engineered and designed to be a thing of great elegance and mechanical beauty – but the PC editor software for it was a REAL NASTY pig (think it was called TWE or somesuch). The Vocaloid editor reminds me a little of that feeling. It feels more akin to a developer’s tool albeit with tidier graphics rather than the “idiot proof” streamlined efforts we’re used to seeing in version 5.1.2.6 of a full commercial release. Trouble is, we’re not all developers with propeller heads (no reason for trademark required :) ) However, I’m glad they released Vocaloid sooner rather than later and hope that it has enough commercial success to warrant a revamp on the user interface. In it’s defence, I think that it’s probably the most intensive mono synth I’ve ever played with as far as parameters and perceived results are concerned. The human ear is SO tuned to phenomenal subleties within vocal properties. Hope they continue to develop it further and listen in to their public’s comments and suggestions. I suppose that’s what the User’s Forum is really about…

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