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Vocaloid don't like the word "no" to repeat
May 8 2004
21:57
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I just finnished a sequence where the word NO repeats a number of times. The timing within vocaloid was off by more than a quarter note in several places. I tried everything I could think of and it was still off. Out of desperation, I tried the word OH in place of NO and it corrected the timing problem. Since the word NO was pretty important in the song, I tried MOW. worked good and I really cant hear any pronunciation difference. I’m fixing to upload the mp3 and will also do the midi file. Get the file and replace mow with no and listen. It’s really wierd. The file is “Tell her no” by the Zombies. Or maybe I should change it to “Tell her mow”. heh heh

May 9 2004
08:58
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Maybe he should have told her yes, Gray.
Seriously, I’ve noticed this with some words. When I sequenced Flight of the Bumble Bee, even though it was only [i:2zgl649i]do be do [/i:2zgl649i]or [i:2zgl649i]da ba da[/i:2zgl649i], I noticed on one line that Lola just wouldn’t sing da ba da, so I changed it to do be do and it worked. I could think of no reason why this should have been so.
Best wishes
Chris

May 9 2004
09:53
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I sometimes get timing errors on short notes and fast phrases. Usually I fix it by shortening the length of the consonants…

Double click on the offending note, then click ‘setup’ and ‘setup’. Now you can reduce the value for the consonants. Sometimes the timing error is caused by an adjacent note, so it might be necesary to adjust the consonant values for the note before or after.

Sometimes it happens when there is more than one consonant in a row for example I had problems with the word ‘sprinkled’….. thats ‘s-p-r….’ 3 consonants in a row. Reducing the values for these phonemes seemed to fix the problem.

hope that helps

May 10 2004
03:26
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Nothing worked on this song. I shortened consonants, notes, lengthened, deleted ans replaced. The notes are like 2 quarter notes apart yet it would sound the next note immediately. Pull up the file and try it. It’s really wierd. I spent a good 3 hours trying to get it to play right. Worked with any word except no. I used ooh, oh, mow, doe, and a couple others. I shortened the n all the way down to 25, lengthened it to 100 and all points in between. I even started over and changed the sequence timing by shifting. That changing consonant length is a helpful feature though. I learned that from a tip by Andromeda in one of the threads here.

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